tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post1398315967296686444..comments2023-11-29T15:58:33.019+07:00Comments on MULTIBRAND: Unusual MarriagesAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-27210542930998742022010-02-18T13:53:03.174+07:002010-02-18T13:53:03.174+07:00Rob,
Although Nikah Siri is based on religion but...Rob,<br /><br />Although Nikah Siri is based on religion but considering that it is not officially registered as stipulated by our marriage law, therefore it is illegal.<br /><br />Re Syeh Puji's case:<br />The District Court of Ungaran only passed an Interim Verdict on the formality of prosecution which is considered incomplete and obscure. <br />Charges against Syeh Puji has not been tried yet, therefore cannot say he is innocent.<br />The Central Java High Court has canceled said verdict and ordered the District Court to reopen the trial. <br />Currently the Supreme Court is examining the verdicts of both courts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-33941229496202923272010-02-18T10:19:41.452+07:002010-02-18T10:19:41.452+07:00Harry...
What happens where religion and traditio...Harry...<br /><br />What happens where religion and tradition clash with the law?<br /><br />In this case nikah siri is only a reflection of the religious tradition for some within the community, isn't it?<br /><br />The Syekh Puji example is an interesting one. He was ultimately let off when the case was dismissed, wasn't he? If he was to all intents and purposes, acquitted, then the marriage was not illegal, was it?<br /><br />Finally, isn't kawin kontrak really a fixed-term nikah siri? where the woman gets specific benefits for agreeing to the terms of the contractual marriage? Furthermore, wouldn't a breach of contract in this instance be a civil matter rather than a family law one?Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-73137107590113806452010-02-18T08:46:48.781+07:002010-02-18T08:46:48.781+07:00Umi,
Yes, let's hope that the lawmakers would...Umi,<br /><br />Yes, let's hope that the lawmakers would make sure that he rights of women and children will be protected under any circumstances.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-58766187646997755522010-02-18T00:05:14.260+07:002010-02-18T00:05:14.260+07:00Here's hoping our women and children are not a...Here's hoping our women and children are not abused and dumped willy nilly and get the protection they deserve.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15269822313905409163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-76419123853552824732010-02-17T19:57:20.560+07:002010-02-17T19:57:20.560+07:00Colson,
The marriage law may still be biased to m...Colson,<br /><br />The marriage law may still be biased to men's right but since 1974 Indonesia has gone through a whole lots of changes, including women's right, this was proven a.o by the election of Megawati as VP and Prez.<br />And the Bill of law that I talked about was one of the proof of such change.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-57674914968065931832010-02-17T19:46:20.501+07:002010-02-17T19:46:20.501+07:00@Harry: "Indonesian society is tightly bound ...@Harry: "Indonesian society is tightly bound by religion and tradition"; In my opinion that's the problem: the laws of a secular state - which RI appears to be- should not be bound by any particular religion any other specific ideology. Human rights, gender equality amongst them, should prevail.<br /><br />Of course if the majority of Indonesian women choose to be defined by law as dependent on men, that choice should be respected. But it is quite different if the laws are/have been drafted and decided upon mainly by men.colsonhttp://www.pelopor.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-84059024774087069012010-02-17T19:02:47.197+07:002010-02-17T19:02:47.197+07:00Suraduja,
Terima kasih banyak atas inputnya yang ...Suraduja,<br /><br />Terima kasih banyak atas inputnya yang memang saya butuhkan saat ini.<br />Saya akan cek.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-48339455966295694002010-02-17T19:01:09.581+07:002010-02-17T19:01:09.581+07:00Colson,
Thank you for your kind words.
Let me an...Colson,<br /><br />Thank you for your kind words. <br />Let me answer one by one :<br /><br />1) Court judges who examine a man's request for polygamy will ask for witnesses (more than 1), bank account, other things needed to consider his capabilities. <br />Of course, as any other court decisions, there's no guarantee.<br />2) same as above<br /><br />To understand why cohabitation is illegal here, one must understand that the Indonesian society is tightly bound by religion and tradition which require that long lasting unity between man and woman should based on marriage in this case a legitimate one.<br /><br />Re gender equality, I admit that the marriage law is still not balanced. But the 1974 law was the best at that time, because before that there were many laws: Civil Code (B.W?), Islamic Law, Traditional (Adat) Law. <br />And many Muslim ladies protested <br />the restriction for Polygamy saying that it is against Islamic law.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-26719750537960454222010-02-17T16:18:34.433+07:002010-02-17T16:18:34.433+07:00terima kasih kunjungan, pujian dan sarannya membua...terima kasih kunjungan, pujian dan sarannya membuat saya semangat untuk ngeblog.<br /><br />oya saya punya altrnatif lain ntuk template anda, ada bisa mengunjungi situsnya di <a href="http://indoslide.blogspot.com/2009/10/top-10-best-blogger-template-with-slide.html" rel="nofollow">Di Sini</a>, disana ada sepuluh template yang menurut saya bagus, dan saya menggunakan template <a href="http://www.bloggertricks.com/2009/05/releasing-mind-blowing-magazine-style.html" rel="nofollow">Falkner Press Magazine Style</a>, <br /><br />atau disitus ini yang pilihannya lebih banyak, silahkan klik <a href="http://www.bloggertricks.com" rel="nofollow">Di Sini</a>, sebelum menggunakannya anda bisa melihat Live Demo-nya disitus tersebutSuradujahttp://suraduja.blogspot.com/2010/02/google-buzzjejaring-sosial-dari-google.html?showComment=1266393983870#c5370226425307580812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-26138625504513937222010-02-17T16:16:38.117+07:002010-02-17T16:16:38.117+07:00A good, brief, but amazingly informative post on I...A good, brief, but amazingly informative post on Indonesian family law. And I have to admit: sometimes Indonesia is an enigma to me.<br /><br />First of all the subjectivity of the criteria:<br /><br />1. how on earth can anyone determine without any doubt ( mind you: it should be a "strict" criterion) whether a man is 'morally' capable to support two families. What does 'morally capable' factually mean at all???<br />2. how on earth does one measure whether someone is able to treat both families equal. What kind of definition is used for 'able' and for 'equal'?<br /><br />Secondly it is puzzling to me why cohabitation as such ( usually a monogamous relation after all - often long lasting, even life long relationships sometimes- between consulting adults without being officially married) is illegal.<br /><br />Of course the law should protect women against trafficking, exploitation or abuse. That includes lewd expatriates abusing sweet country girls. And also aggressive, violent husbands beating up their wives every now and then, for instance. <br /><br />But is a a weird - and incorrect- kind of selective perception to single out cohabitation.<br /><br />The overall big question which is bothering me now is: why is gender equality so obviously absent in the law?colsonhttp://www.pelopor.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-5535561748039304772010-02-17T10:19:45.058+07:002010-02-17T10:19:45.058+07:00Pau Travels,
A legitimate 10-years marriage contr...Pau Travels,<br /><br />A legitimate 10-years marriage contract? WOW! I thought that such marriage only happen here.<br /><br />Thank you for your visit and comment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33513300642419002.post-76171016090640478152010-02-17T10:04:55.715+07:002010-02-17T10:04:55.715+07:00nice one.. heheh.. we'll in the Philippines, s...nice one.. heheh.. we'll in the Philippines, some legislators are suggesting a 10-yr marriage contract validity... :DPauTravelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04478359767368177947noreply@blogger.com